NICOLA Sturgeon has told Douglas Ross to take “guidance” from his predecessor Ruth Davidson on asking “gotcha” questions over whether a trans person is a man or a woman.
The Scottish Tory leader decided to focus on the transgender prisoner row and cases of Isla Bryson and Tiffany Scott for the third First Minister's Questions in a row.
Ross claimed that Sturgeon has been asked 12 times if Bryson was a man or a woman, before asking the question again.
READ MORE: FMQs recap: Nicola Sturgeon blasts Sarwar's 'zero substance' approach to Budget
Sturgeon said Ross’s line of questioning showed he didn’t “understand the law” around the Equality Act and noted previous comments made by Davidson.
Ross repeatedly asked the FM if Bryson is a man or a woman, how they will be treated when they leave the prison estate, and urged her to publish an urgent review by the Scottish Prison Service (SPS) into the case.
During the exchange, the FM told Ross that the cases of Bryson and Scott demonstrate how the SPS deals with different cases on an individual basis, and that there are established processes in place for dealing with sex offenders when they leave the prison estate “based on an assessment on the nature of risk”.
The FM added: “These are important issues, they are sensitive issues, not least for the trans community.
“As I said last week, and I've said before, the overwhelming majority of whom only want to get on with living their lives and never commit any offences of any nature.
“But I don't think Douglas does any service to anybody in the way that he approaches this.
"I'm struck by something his predecessor Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson has said, ‘Trying to do gotcha questions about who is a woman who is a man, I'm not sure helps, particularly for people in the trans community, who are looking at the way this is reported’.
READ MORE: Introducing The Worst of Westminster: The National's new newsletter
“So perhaps Douglas Ross could take some guidance from his predecessor on this matter, and that might serve this whole debate better than the way he is doing.”
Ross responded by saying the FM had refused to give a “straight answer”.
The SPS review was ordered by Scottish Justice Secretary Keith Brown in the wake of public outcry after Bryson was initially housed in segregation at Cornton Vale prison near Stirling.
Bryson, who will be sentenced later this month for raping two women while she was a man, was then moved to the men’s estate.
The review was due to be completed by the SPS last Friday, and the FM confirmed on Thursday that Brown has now received the report.
“The findings of the report will be published,” she said.
“The Cabinet Secretary confirmed – I believe he confirmed in this chamber – that he will update the Criminal Justice Committee this week, Parliament rises today for this week and both the Cabinet Secretary and the chief executive of the Scottish Prison Service Teresa Medhurst will actually attend the Justice Committee on February 22.”
Ross continued to urge the FM to commit to publishing the full report, as opposed to just the “findings”.
READ MORE: Former MP jailed for fraudulenty funding cocaine habit
The National understands the full report will not be published due to personal information which is contained in the document.
Ross said: “The First Minister claims I’m clutching at straws on this – it seems she’s clutching on to this report, because she’s not willing to issue it in full today.
“The report findings, we’re told, will be published at some point, why not today? Why not publish the findings and the full report that your Justice Secretary has had for over 24 hours?”
Ross then asked the FM if Tiffany Scott, another transgender prisoner, is a man or a woman.
The FM hit back at Ross and said his comments showed he didn't "understand the law", adding that rights for any individual identifying as a woman come from the UK Equality Act 2010, which has always been based on self-identification.
Elsewhere, the FM clashed with Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar over looming cuts to council budgets, amid reports that in Glasgow social care funding could be slashed and a row over teacher numbers deepens between national and local government.
Sarwar urged the FM to concede that council budgets were being cut, during a heated exchange between the two party leaders.
“The First Minister wants to deny reality,” he said.
READ MORE: US Congress members tell SNP MPs they are 'aghast' at state of US
“The Fraser of Allander, the (Institute for Fiscal Studies), SPICE (the Scottish Parliament Information Centre), Scotland’s councils including her own, all say there is a real-terms cut to local government budgets, but that’s a truth the First Minister is not willing to accept.
“There is no way for councils to balance their books without further destroying local services.”
The FM told the Labour leader that all of the funding available to the Scottish Government had been allocated in the draft budget, and called on him to present options for spending cuts elsewhere that can then be given to councils.
Sarwar described the FM as “out of touch with reality”, pleading with her backbenchers to “get off your backs and stand up against this First Minister”.
Responding, Sturgeon said: “No matter how much Anas Sarwar raises his voice and shouts, it doesn’t cover up the fact that he has not brought forward a single proposal within a budget that is fully allocated for putting a single extra penny into local government budgets.
“That’s why he shouts, because there is absolutely zero substance in anything he’s saying."
READ MORE: Scottish council funding row deepens over looming social care cuts
During constituency follow up questions, MSPs raised concerns over issues ranging from yesterday's announcement that meeting the 2025 target date for dualling the A9 is now "unachievable" after a failed procurement round, details around the ban on alcohol advertising and the impact on whisky tourism, as well as abortion buffer zones and the deposit return scheme.
The issue of forced installment of pre-payment meters by energy companies was also raised by MSPs, as well as the higher prices consumers face.
Tory MSP Murdo Fraser told the Parliament that whisky tourism brings in £84 million to the Scottish economy and asked if the FM agreed it would be "absurd" to ask distilleries to cover up their signage.
The FM said that this was "not in our current thinking" and noted the extreme importance of to Scotland's economy and reputation.
SNP MSP Fergus Ewing asked the FM if she had concerns that the Bottle Deposit Return Scheme would impact businesses, urged for glass to be excluded from the plans and for the scheme to be halted.
"It is the case that there are strong environmental reasons for including glass but of course, on all these issues we will continue to listen," the FM responded.
READ MORE: Do protests in the gallery really work if they happen at every FMQs?
"And one of the issues I am particularly concerned to consider further, if there is yet more we can do to reduce any impact on small producers, because I think some of the concerns raised are not unreasonable."
The FM also committed to seeing legislation to bring in abortion clinic buffer zones to the Scottish Parliament "as soon as possible" following a summit on the issue earlier this week.
She added that the government is committed to "progressing abortion care" overall.
Why are you making commenting on The National only available to subscribers?
We know there are thousands of National readers who want to debate, argue and go back and forth in the comments section of our stories. We’ve got the most informed readers in Scotland, asking each other the big questions about the future of our country.
Unfortunately, though, these important debates are being spoiled by a vocal minority of trolls who aren’t really interested in the issues, try to derail the conversations, register under fake names, and post vile abuse.
So that’s why we’ve decided to make the ability to comment only available to our paying subscribers. That way, all the trolls who post abuse on our website will have to pay if they want to join the debate – and risk a permanent ban from the account that they subscribe with.
The conversation will go back to what it should be about – people who care passionately about the issues, but disagree constructively on what we should do about them. Let’s get that debate started!
Callum Baird, Editor of The National
Comments: Our rules
We want our comments to be a lively and valuable part of our community - a place where readers can debate and engage with the most important local issues. The ability to comment on our stories is a privilege, not a right, however, and that privilege may be withdrawn if it is abused or misused.
Please report any comments that break our rules.
Read the rules hereLast Updated:
Report this comment Cancel